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Post by travis on Nov 17, 2009 0:58:00 GMT -5
What is your choice of self defense load? Do you like factory choices or prefer handloads? Mine is the federal premium hydra-shock.
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Post by travis on Nov 17, 2009 11:20:46 GMT -5
I did not know it was illegal to handload self defense rounds. Good to know if I am going to get into reloading! Do you know the reasoning behind this? I have heard good things about the Corbon rounds as well and never heard anything bad about the hydra-shok's.
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Post by M1Riflenut on Nov 19, 2009 17:22:23 GMT -5
I use Remington Golden Sabre .45acp in my Kimber,Fed hydra-shock in the 9mm and .380. As I sit here typing this I don't recall what I have in the 10mm's but it is factory ammo. I find/use whatever shoots at least 200 rounds without any malfunctions and is designed for defensive use. Perfect functioning is the most important issue IMHO.
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Post by LFGC Board Admin on Nov 29, 2009 0:46:50 GMT -5
I did not know it was illegal to handload self defense rounds. Good to know if I am going to get into reloading! Do you know the reasoning behind this? I have heard good things about the Corbon rounds as well and never heard anything bad about the hydra-shok's. Travis...who told you it was illegal to to hand load self defense rounds?
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Post by LFGC Board Admin on Nov 29, 2009 1:02:23 GMT -5
Presently, there is no case law existing anywhere within American Juris Prudence where any person who used a handgun in self defense with a hand load was convicted of anything or found liable for anything. It simply doesn't exist. Massad Ayoob in his book, "In the Gravest of the Extreme" talks about this, but to date, most other agree this is mere pabulum and no case has ever gone forth anywhere where the ammunition has been at issue. [/b][/size][/font]
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Post by travis on Nov 29, 2009 19:22:18 GMT -5
I did not know it was illegal to handload self defense rounds. Good to know if I am going to get into reloading! Do you know the reasoning behind this? I have heard good things about the Corbon rounds as well and never heard anything bad about the hydra-shok's. Travis...who told you it was illegal to to hand load self defense rounds?I was mislead by a forum user that they were illegal and have been corrected that it is perfectly fine to handload your own self defense rounds. Thanks for your concern.
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Post by zfekete on Nov 30, 2009 13:22:12 GMT -5
I seen an argument about that on a forum. Basically the argument against using reloads for self defense is, that if you ever have to use it, at court someone may try to use it against you: Picturing you as a gun crazy maniac, who is spending extra time to 'Make the bullets deadlier' .
I have no idea if this ever happened anywhere or not.
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Post by Rick Olson on Dec 2, 2009 16:58:47 GMT -5
I seen an argument about that on a forum. Basically the argument against using reloads for self defense is, that if you ever have to use it, at court someone may try to use it against you: Picturing you as a gun crazy maniac, who is spending extra time to 'Make the bullets deadlier' . I have no idea if this ever happened anywhere or not. As I said in my previous post...there exists no case anywhere in American Jurisprudence where that argument has been advanced, made or otherwise put forth...It simply has not happened.
But if you really think about it, the argument is analogous to hitting a person with a baseball bat. If I either buy the bat at Walmart or acquire a 31" piece of ash and turn out a homemade ball bat in my garage on my lathe.
Which bat is a higher use of deadly force? Deadly force, by a legal standard, is deadly force, whether a 9mm is used or a 44 mag.
Handgun use is ALWAYS...100% of the time, in court, an argument about the justifiable use of force. The question being (a) whether or not the threat was an emminent threat to the life of the person or people; and, (b) whether such threat rose to the level where a reasonble person would use deadly force to stop the attack of the attacker.
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